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seashell92
 
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I’ve been working on getting some of the flower trade furniture while waiting for the next garden event and to try and make it easier, I’ve been trying to make pure hybrids but does anyone know how to tell if they really are pure?

I’ve got a blue, coral and purple pansy (made by crossing blue x blue, coral x coral and purple x purple). I’m only cross pollinating using red pansies and so far have only got blue, red/blue or rare purples from the blue pansy which makes me think it’s pure. But the other two colours I’m not sure about.

The purple and coral have both given me red seeds back as well as their own colour seeds. Does this mean that they aren’t pure?
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AnnetteSR
 
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"The purple and coral have both given me red seeds back as well as their own colour seeds. Does this mean that they aren’t pure?"
Not necessarily. The red gene is dominant over the coral and the purple genes, and even if the flowers in the ground are pure, half the resulting seeds will be red.

The red pansies you're using for x-pollinating, have their seeds been bought straight from Lloid, or are they the results of x-pollinations? If they're straight from Lloid, the second gene is white, and white is the lowest on the dominance scale.

If you use Lloid reds and you get no white pansies after a fair number of x-pollinations, you can be sure that the coral and purple flowers in the ground don't have a white gene. Then you can be sure that the purple is pure, and fairly sure that the coral is as well, because the only alternative would be that its second gene is purple.

If you used other reds i.e. ones that are not red/white, the flowers in the ground may have a white gene, but you won't know because all other genes are dominant over white, and hence you won't ever get a white pansy.

I'm apparently at the same stage of breeding as you are. I've got a purple/white pansy to crossbreed with, which gives 50/25/25 red/purple/white. I don't mind very much about the whites because I need those as well, but breeding the purples will go twice as fast with a pure purple. Also, I will get white pansies from future breeding. So, I'm busy setting things up to make a pure purple, but it requires quite some planning!

A good way to breed a pure purple is to breed Lloid reds with a purple/white. Plant the resulting red seeds, which may have purple as the second gene. X-polli them with similar hybrid reds, and any resulting purple flower will be pure.

red/purple x red/purple gives red/red , red/purple, purple/red or purple/purple, where the first three will be red flowers, and the last one a pure purple.

You have to ensure that you have no purple pansy seeds in your inventory before starting, because it's unsure where that pure seed will end up: top or bottom of stack, or somewhere random.

I'm now planting all the purple pansy seeds I've produced so far to clear my inventory. By the end of today I'll be able to start planting some hybrid reds and hope they'll have a purple gene. The excitement!

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seashell92
 
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This is so helpful AnnetteSR, thank you. Flower breeding is so complicated! I’m still trying to get my head around everything so it’s great to hear how it should be done.

I’ve been mainly using Lloyd reds but also reusing some of the reds I got back from cross poll but for my latest test I’ve only used Lloyd reds. Unfortunately it looks like the purple is not pure. I got a white pansy back from it, along with 5 reds and only 1 purple. The coral I got 3 reds and the others were coral, so I think that looks a little more hopeful but as I didn’t have many spare reds,  I need to test it again properly when the next batch of Lloyd reds grow.

I’m going to try what you suggested. I did plant the 5 red seeds I got from the purple (and kept a note so I don’t forget where they are planted!) and then I planted the other 3 reds from the coral separately too with the other spaces being taken up by Lloyd reds but the only problem is I already have 14 purple seeds in my inventory which it looks like I’m going to need to grow first. Hmm...this is more complicated than I thought!

Good luck with your hybrid reds! I now wish I’d have planted the purples first instead of more Lloyd reds! The 3-4 hours goes so slowly when I want to plant things! Lol
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AnnetteSR
 
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"Flower breeding is so complicated!"
So true. It's a science all by itself.

"A good way to breed a pure purple is to breed Lloid reds with a purple/white. Plant the resulting red seeds, which may have purple as the second gene. X-polli them with similar hybrid reds, and any resulting purple flower will be pure."
Oops. I did this yesterday, and the moment I planted the purple seed that according to the above should be pure, I realized my mistake, which is that the hybrid reds can be red/purple or red/white. I waited out the four hours of growing time and still hoped for the best, because with some luck the pansy might still have been pure. However, it turned out I produced another purple/white.

I've now given up on the pure purple and have returned to crossing Lloid reds with the purple/white. I'll just grind on until I've got the required 145 of them (I already have the potted pansies). The other pansy breeds should be a lot easier, that's why I started with the purple ones.

Good luck with the breeding! If you manage to breed a pure purple, you'll be my hero.
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AnnetteSR
 
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Here's another cunning plan! Without a pure purple pansy, the by-product of the purple pansies breeding is white pansies. If I get too many seeds of them, I'll plant them instead of the Lloid reds, and white pansies will give 50% purple pansies when crossed with a purple/white pansy! Just as good a return as Lloid reds with a pure purple. All the white pansy seeds I get again can be replanted, so eventually all white pansies will be rurned into purple pansies. Oh man, I feel so clever right now, haha.

When the gardening was just released I thought, no way am I going after all that furniture and those tees. So I made enough flowers to get all the potted flowers and one tee, minitable, bear, fence and chair of leftover flowers. I remember having left over many white pansy seeds, so I'm sure I'll get them again when breeding blue pansies.

I'm now going after all the flower stuff because there's nothing else left to do and it's a nice low-key backburner project. I'm done with the tulips, just started on the pansies. Gotta catch them all!
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seashell92
 
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Sounds like a good plan!

I didn’t have any luck with the flowers I was growing yesterday but today seems more hopeful. I don’t want to get my hopes up but I crossed two reds that came from a purple together and it made a purple seed. I planted that and then crossed it with 17 Lloyd reds. Out of the 17 Lloyd reds, I got 6 purples, 8 reds, 3 failures but no white seeds. I don’t know if that’s enough testing to confirm it’s pure but I think it looks like a better result than I’ve been getting so far!

I know exactly what you mean about the gardening items! I haven’t got that far with them yet. I didn’t take it seriously at first and was just mixing things randomly until I found a guide. I only have all the shirts (which I now use to dress up my campsite animals in! ) and the fences and only a couple of chairs and tables. I haven’t even attempted any pure tulips yet but I think I might give it a go after Leif’s event!
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seashell92
 
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Well they were pure after all but I accidentally harvested them with the harvest all option!

I still have some other seeds which should be pure too so I think I can get them back when I need them. Working on other flowers now!

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