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Ty
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1/16 10:41pm
I was looking at the Top Bells, and the top person has gotten 27 jackpots. I think that's unfair, especially to those of us (like me) that have never even gotten a single one, much less seen one. I think there should be a limit or at least a time period where someone that has gotten a jackpot should be unable to get another (6 months or so).
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cooljdude
 
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1/16 12:50pm
In my opinion, I don't think we should be enforcing a limit such as this. The whole fun of a treasure hunt is its random nature; just like any other sort of game of chance, some users may end up lucky. A game of chance such as this isn't supposed to be distributed in a manner to be fair - I don't mean that in a rude way, I just mean that we shouldn't prioritize any users based on their current amount of bells.

There are ways you could increase your likelihood of winning a jackpot though, such as just being on the site more and using the site when the jackpot is higher. (The higher the bell jackpot goes, the more likely it is to display a jackpot ad.)
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Ty
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A lot of treasure hunts and such and limited to one jackpot win per person, to ensure people all have a fair chance. It's not much fun when one or a few people keep hogging the jackpot.
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luxanna
 
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i think when the bell shop comes close to releasing the bells people have should be maybe halved or reset something, i'd be more inclined to turn off my adblock if a couple of things were considered:

1. the average active user on here has been using this site for at least a year or longer, and have accumulated a lot of bells. if you were to implement the bell shop with the amount most people have but made everything cost smaller amounts of bells to make it more affordable for new users, people would be able to purchase everything pretty much right away (or everything they wanted) and have no reason to turn off adblock again until new items are added. so youd probably have to make everything cost a lot to keep the incentive. but that means newer users like me would have to wait forever to even have a chance at getting anything.

2. the most active users are going to get the most jackpots. there are a handful of users here that are the most active and are going to have a way bigger chance of getting the jackpot than anyone else. if the site were more active i wouldn't be pointing this out, but it's not. not only am i relatively new but there's only a handful of new posts that interest me enough to click on every day, so even if i had adblock off, it's not like i'm actually being exposed to that many ads. but of course in every group theres going to be those few people that are still always on regardless, and they're probably the people that still wifi and make use of nearly all the boards on the site. i don't even really play animal crossing anymore, so there's only a few boards i even use.

3. i've had adblok on since day one of joining this site and i've only missed 2000 bells. in relation to the amount of bells i see other people having, that doesn't seem like very much at all. this is all probably in result to me not being as active as other users and not being a member for more than a few months, but in the big scheme of things it doesn't seem like much at all even though i have a ton of threads that i've read and just not replied to that don't have any new posts. kind of seems pointless to me to turn off the extension.

as for limitations on winning jackpots, maybe not a permanent limit but rather like, you can only win it once or twice per month. when you have a website that isn't very active as i've mentioned before, it does make it unfair that the few handful of users who can still make use o fthe entire site to have a way higher chance of getting it repeatedly.
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I don't want our bells to be taken away. It's not fair. I don't even plan on buying that many things in the bell shop. I just want to collect bells and try to get as many as possible.
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luxanna
 
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but when you introduce a market into any place you have to think about the economy of it. might sound a bit, i dunno, extreme considering the platform but the entire reason they introduced bells was to gain more ad revenue and stop people from using adblock. the economy of it and the incentive to use adblock or not are entirely dependent on the average amount of bells active users on here have, which could be quite a bit because of what i mentioned above. whether you yourself plan on using them or not, it isn't fair to new members who are just starting out. in fact it may discourage people from even trying it. if the numbers on costs are too high i know i might just say "thats so much work for something like a special avatar or something, why bother" and the incentive is gone.

maybe though there could be a feature where if you just want to collect them you can keep them, but if you want to use the shop there will be some kind of bell reset before you can make a purchase.
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12:07am
"A lot of treasure hunts and such and limited to one jackpot win per person, to ensure people all have a fair chance. It's not much fun when one or a few people keep hogging the jackpot."
Everyone does have an equal chance of getting a jackpot from a single click with the same current jackpot. Everyone does have a fair chance per click.

"1. the average active user on here has been using this site for at least a year or longer, and have accumulated a lot of bells. if you were to implement the bell shop with the amount most people have but made everything cost smaller amounts of bells to make it more affordable for new users, people would be able to purchase everything pretty much right away (or everything they wanted) and have no reason to turn off adblock again until new items are added. so youd probably have to make everything cost a lot to keep the incentive. but that means newer users like me would have to wait forever to even have a chance at getting anything. "
We aim to price items in a way so some items are cheap enough that just about anyone could buy them and some items are so expensive that only a few users could buy them and only if they used most of their bells with a lot of items in the middle. Yes, users with a lot of bells will have a different experience but the goal is to allow everyone to participate to some extent.

"3. i've had adblok on since day one of joining this site and i've only missed 2000 bells. in relation to the amount of bells i see other people having, that doesn't seem like very much at all. this is all probably in result to me not being as active as other users and not being a member for more than a few months, but in the big scheme of things it doesn't seem like much at all even though i have a ton of threads that i've read and just not replied to that don't have any new posts. kind of seems pointless to me to turn off the extension. "
I've had stretches where I get 100 bell ads every once in a while and I've had days where I've gotten multiple 10,000 ads and quite a few other bell ads. There is a lot of luck involved.

Also, just making sure - you're not just looking at the "missed" section under where it says "online" and "bells", correct?
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DFB
 
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Ty
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1/16 10:41pm
The top three jackpot winners have 27, 12, and 11 "won" respectively. Then it goes to 9 on down. That's 50 jackpots between 3 alone. That gives a "why bother?" message towards everyone else. (And I can count on one hand the number of times I've gotten the 10,000 bell ad despite being fairly active on the site)
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luxanna
 
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"Also, just making sure - you're not just looking at the "missed" section under where it says "online" and "bells", correct? "
is there another place i can check? if that's not the only place itll tell you, i wasn't aware there was another section somewhere - still figuring out this site a little bit in all honesty
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asho28
 
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1/16 6:08pm
There are a few factors involved really. Firstly, some people have been members of the site longer than others, which subsequently means that they've had more opportunities to find the jackpot. Also, some people use ACC on daily basis more than others, some excessively perhaps - this will mean that those members are likely to have found more jackpots. Lastly, due to a decline in site activity, jackpots build up less quickly than a few years ago, and therefore take longer to be found. Jackpots are roughly found only once a week now.

I don't think it would be fair to limit to amount of jackpots people can find. However, I've mentioned this suggestion previously; I think that 10% of bells from missed ads should be added to the jackpot total instead of the 5% that we have currently. This would accommodate the decline in activity over the years and would mean that there would be more opportunities for people like yourself to find jackpots. I've not heard much feedback on this, though.

I've been fortunate enough to find the jackpot several times before, but I agree that more should be done to give others a better chance of finding one, such as what I mentioned above.
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DFB
 
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Ty
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1/16 10:41pm
I've been on ACC about 13 years now and agree something should be done to give others a better chance.
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1/16 8:12am
I think it should be left alone. If the person who is on the site the most wins the most jackpots. Kudos to them.
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luxanna
 
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^except that people are pointing out clear reasons why its unfair, so sure kudos to them but why can't we let someone else have a go?
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asho28
 
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1/16 6:08pm
I wouldn't say that the current system is "unfair", but I certainly feel there are ways in which we can increase the number of jackpot opportunities to aid those who are yet to find one.
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luxanna
 
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i would say i think it /can/ be unfair, just given the circumstances of activity on acc currently and how theres no motivation for people to go around hunting for bells on a relatively dead website aside for a handful of peopl. if the site wee much more active i would say it isn't unfair and should work very well. i just think the activity of the site affects it a lot, so maybe at least until it goes back up we could but some sort of limit on jackpots, just to give more chances.
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Jarikira
 
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1/8 5:42pm
I am against having bells taken away from anyone. If I have been on the site for years and have had a lot of activity why should I be penalized? I have earned my bells fair and square and I find it highly unfair that any should be taken away.

There have been a number of ways discussed to keep purchases from the Bell Shop reasonable for all. Taking away bells would be punishing the members who have been longtime members on the site for members that might not even stay on the site for a week.

Yes, we try and get new members but we shouldn't do it at the expense of our longtime members who have already proved their loyalty.

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luxanna
 
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this website honestly doesn't seem that welcoming to new members from everything i've seen so far which seems very ironic since you talk so much about wanting to get the site activity up/bring in new users and give them a reason to stay
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"3. i've had adblok on since day one of joining this site and i've only missed 2000 bells. in relation to the amount of bells i see other people having, that doesn't seem like very much at all. this is all probably in result to me not being as active as other users and not being a member for more than a few months, but in the big scheme of things it doesn't seem like much at all even though i have a ton of threads that i've read and just not replied to that don't have any new posts. kind of seems pointless to me to turn off the extension."
The "Missed" statistic only displays the amount of bells that you missed since the last jackpot. This is because of the way Wisp ads and missed bells work. The Wisp ad allows you to get bells that you lost, and those bells are then removed from the jackpot. The "Missed" statistic basically tells you how many missed bells you can theoretically get back right now. Since you can only get missed bells back from the current jackpot, the Missed statistic resets every time a jackpot is gained. So, the 2,000 bells number only represents the amount of bells that you've missed since the last jackpot was claimed, and you've probably missed far more than that.

For the reasons that others have stated, I disagree with the idea of limiting jackpots or reducing more active users' chances of clicking the jackpot. However, given the decline in activity in this website site the Bells feature was introduced, I agree with asho's idea of increasing the percentage of Missed bells added to the jackpot to increase the number of jackpot claims.
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No one is taking down Aurora. That's basically set in stone now. Sorry about that.
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1/16 10:41pm
That wasn't my original point. My point was the select few "hogging" the jackpots to the point few other people even have a chance to get it, and why there should be a time limit for those that get a jackpot, like a six month "cooldown" period between being eligible to get another jackpot whenever someone gets one.
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